As I’ve mentioned before, I’ve been having a conversation of sorts with a couple of pre-trib cult members via the comments section of a recently posted Youtube video, which can be found here- Debunk this! 30 Reasons the Pre-trib Rapture is a Lie!
Now, if you go and check out the comments, you will notice how “Ruckus” asks questions willy nilly, with little to no follow up, while I give extensive replies to each. You will also notice as you read his correspondence, how he moves from question to question, and is completely unable to address my responses. This is typical pre-trib tactics. They have no clear scripture and are self deceived, so they have to jump from question to question, from leaf to tattered LEAF, all the while avoiding the most basic fundamental ROOTS such as defining the terms they use, such as “tribulation”, from the Bible. They cannot admit to themselves that they have no Biblical foundation for even the very words they use to defend their false doctrine, so they simply avoid confessing this to themselves by jumping from scripture to scripture, willy nilly. They have no cohesive argument. At this point in the conversation I am simply taking my time to show thoroughly that no matter what point Ruckus brings up to discuss, he has NO FOUNDATION at all upon which to ask such a question. This is because the root of his theological tree is corrupt, the definitions of his terms are flawed. This is a great way to stop pre-tribbers in their tracks. THEY CANNOT PRODUCE CLEAR SCRIPTURE TO DEFEND THE DEFINITIONS OF THE WORDS THAT UNDERPIN THEIR THEOLOGY. It’s hilarious to witness the implications of this in conversation. Once you question the foundation upon which the pre-tribber stands, they can no longer mount ANY argument that supports a pre-tribulation rapture. You will witness for yourself how they run around like headless chickens, scrambling to defend their sunken ship, clutching at straws, if only you ask them to actually show ONE PLACE where the bible CLEARLY says, “tribulation”=”Wrath”.
Another method which they detest is mockery. The pre-trib school is populated with ivory tower types, who, when questioned about the lack of foundations for their doctrines, will say “welll… My friend, you need to grow in the Lord, okay? Just give it a few years. I have been studying this issue for years. Here is my special hat, and piece of paper, which I received from the local McBible College®™.” I have oftentimes encountered this method of “debate” by pre-tribbers. It is one of both dishonesty and flagrant intellectual pomposity, and the most repugnant thing about it is the fact that it is most often exercised by spiritual nincompoops. Nevertheless, when the veil is taken away and one grasps the truly unbiblical nature of dispensationalism and pre-tribbism, frustration gives way to levity, and the biblical post-tribber can then go about exercising themselves in that most hated enemy of all serious spiritual “intellectuals”- comedy.
Within the sounds of laughter that populate our conversations, there persists a phrase that agrees with every well thought out argument against the dopiness of pre-tribbism, and that phrase is “it’s funny because it’s true”. It is my hope that the reader remembers this foremost, when conducting themselves amongst the wolves and misguided sheep that gravititate to, and defend, Johnny Darby’s cult. There is nothing more grating to the ears of a puffed-up McBible College®™ piece-of-paper holder, than to hear the laughter that is induced in both the refuter and casual observers to the conversation, when the blatantly piss weak nature of pre-tribbism is exposed by a witty rebuke.
Elijah, by the spirit of God, had a grand old time on Mt Carmel, making a monkey out of the Prophets of Baal before all Israel. After proceeding to gather the pompous phony prophets, and a huge crowd for good measure, the Bible tells us that he laid out a challenge in plain terms, to cut up a bullock and let the true God rain down fire on the sacrifice.
After giving the men sufficient time to embarrass themselves, having had zero reply from their false god, the Bible informs us that Elijah, one man, mocked all four hundred and fifty of them. Unsurprisingly, this caused the group to become more rabid, and to furiously cut themselves until the blood literally gushed out. [Ed: Hmm. Perhaps the next time the reader waxes lyrical to one claiming to believe Darby’s nonsense, and they get bent out of shape, it might pay to ask “why are you so cut up?”] And so it is with dispensationalism and pre-trib hocus-pocus. Anyone with half a brain is laughing, and the false prophets in turn are becoming more rabid, and getting “cut up” over their precious false doctrine being destroyed.
And therein lies one of the great effects of mockery- by dismantling the protective veneer of pompous condescenion that is rife within the stale ranks of pre-trib churches, it allows it’s user to smite the heart of the hearer, and to make them realise the ridiculousness of continuing in touting this wacky lie.
If Elijah taugh us nothing else on Mt Carmel, he taught us this… It pays to laugh in the face of the enemies of God, and the enemies of sound doctrine. The yoke of God is light. It’s lightness, levity. And when sound reason,wit and levity meet the delusory grand affectations of the pretentious pre-tribber, hilarity ensues.
So in simple terms, without any exception, I completely condone mockery and parody of the pre-trib false prophets as a biblical means of addressing their errors. And after reading this article, I hope you do too. Remember, it was the Lord that inspired Elijah on Mount Carmel. (In general, obviously it pays to be sober, but the number one enemy of puffed up pseudo-intellectuals is parody and laughter).
[Authors note: The story of Elijah on Mount Carmel really is one of my favorites. Not only did he thoroughly demonstrate the stupidity of their half baked spurious assertions, he then went on to divide them asunder, when no-one else would get the job done. A hair-legged servant of the Lord in one of his finest hours indeed.
Also note: This post is also the result of several “IRL” encounters with pre-trib cult members, who exhibit a series of common symptoms of their theological illness, foremost among which is a contrived interest in “rightly dividing the scriptures”, which-when correctly translated- amounts to their desire to brainwash you into the cult of dispensationalism and (if that fails) to marginalize you as a troublesome character who “needs to grow in the Lord”. I have found humour to be the best way to deflate the ego of the deluded pre-tribber, and so thought I would make that clear here with this post. Hopefully there are others out there who understand just why humour is so effective against the ivory tower types.]
Ecclesiastes 3:1-12 “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”